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    April 15, 2009

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    Kevin Johnson

    Thank you for sharing your thinking and decision on this matter, Greg. I suspect that within, and without, our diocese, there will be a wide spectrum of response.

    As a relative newbie to the Land Episcopal, I've been following this matter with some interest, though not enjoying the "spectacle." That we can have a discussion regarding things of substance, keeping an eye toward our purpose for being, I think is a very good thing. That the discussion allows for all to grow, regardless of position taken, makes it all the more worthwhile, though not particularly pleasant.

    Peace of Christ

    Michael Murphree

    Dear Bishop Rickel,

    Thank you for posting your well reasoned and well considered response to the call for your affirmation of the election in northern Michigan. Whilst the Episcopal Church often cast a wide net of inclusiveness to spiritually support a vast flock of very disparate views, you rightly point to the necessity of those called to ordination to support a core set of beliefs.

    Your leadership continues to be a blessing to our diocese.

    Bob Chapman

    There are times like this that I'm happy you are the one that has to make such a decision. At the same time, you were given information--baptismal service changes--that would have made the decision easier for me to make.

    To deny the people in a diocese its choice of bishop is serious.

    Comments about each point:

    1. Where others allowed to nominate a person for the election?

    If the adopted process completely blocked any other nomination, you were right. It was an election, not a confirmation hearing.

    If other names were not nominated by choice, then an election could have taken place. The question is what type of pressure was made to prevent further names from being nominated. Does anyone know the answer to this?

    2. As I understand it, "lay ordination" is a bad description of what he received. As far as I know, all this means is that he was certified in certain meditation techniques.

    There are Jesuits and those in other Roman Catholic with this type of "lay ordination." The Vatican is not making them step down.

    That being said, is this candidate for this office of bishop bringing Zen techniques AND Buddhist religious beliefs with him? Does anyone know?

    3. The rewriting of the Baptismal liturgy is the most telling. I think that the denial of evil by removal of mention of Satan from the Baptismal covenant wouldn't even make Forrester a good Buddhist, let alone Christian.

    There are some very serious differences between Buddhism with its karma and Christianity with its judgment and grace. Yet, both acknowledge that wrong exists.

    While I think that Satan is more than the personification of evil, I know there are Christians that define Satan in this way. At least these people accept the influence of evil on our lives and its need to be renounced.

    If Baptism isn't, according to God's own promise, our burial to evil and our resurrection to life with the conferring of the grace of the Spirit, then what is it?

    The level of rebuke of the Book of Common Prayer by Forrester on this point is not the same as placing the closing hymn at mass between the blessing and dismissal. One is bad liturgy. The other is denial of the Faith.

    Kelly

    As a member of the diocese of Northern Michigan, I appreciate your thoughtful approach to Kevin's ordination and the qaulity of your reasoning. This is a difficult time for this diocese and, while there are many who are comfortable with both the search for a new bishop and the result of that search, there are also many of us who feel that the process was less than transparent and are deebly troubled with Kevin being chosen as bishop. To be sure, this has little to do with Kevin as an individual (he is by nature kind and unassuming). Truthfully, this diocese has not dealt well with the loss of Jim Kelsey and, in an unfortunate twist of Mutual Ministry tenets, has blocked itself off from outside support by touting the phrase "We have everything we need." This diocese faces many difficulties on many fronts (shrinking membership, financial difficulties etc) and, in my opinion, we (nor does any one group) do not have everything we need among us and should, indeed need, to be open to the support, guidance, and encouragement of those in the larger church community.
    I recognize that this was a difficult decision for you and want to assure you that at least one member of the diocese of Northern Michigan supports your final decision and your reasons for making that decision.

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